Wow!  What a high class problem...most guys would love to make it dance like you.

I haven't tried the new Tour S yet, but NXT Tour's (which I do play) do not spin as much.  I tend to use them because I don't have the skill to utilize all of the ProV's capabilities.  If you do, why not use it to your advantage?  Nothing can beat hitting a shot long and having it back up to a tight, upfront pin placement.

I am a 5 handicap, so not scratch, my spin comes from a steep angle of impact. The problem is with too much spin is that I am not good enough to make it consistent, so the amount of drawback is different. I would like a ball that spins less of the driver and irons, but still allows me to have chipping, pitching bite/control. The Prov1x works great 95% of the time, but on full 9-sw shots, the ball can come screaming back. I am also working on hitting half shots, more controlled shots to lessen the spin into some greens.

Hi Robert,

I would recommend taking a sleeve of NXT Tour S and a sleeve of Pro V1x out to the course to go through an on-course evaluation. By comparing these models side-by-side you should be able to better determine which golf ball will fit your game best and ultimately help you lower your score.

You'll want to start the evaluation by hitting partial swing iron shots into and around the green, then followed by full swing iron shots, and finally hitting from the tee with the driver. As you go through the process, take note of which golf ball is performing best for your game on each of the different shots.

You can do this during a normal round of play (if your course isn't particularly busy on a given day) by tracking fairways hit, greens hit in regulation and proximity to hole on approach shots. Another option is to play one model golf ball for nine holes and do the same with the secondary recommendation on the back nine. Additionally, feel preference is a part of the on course evaluation process as it relates to confidence in shot making ability. 

This is the same fitting approach we use with all amateurs and professionals out on tour.

I personally found the fitting process to be a lot of fun. Let us know how it works out for you.

In the meantime, here are some helpful links:

Golf Ball Fitting: http://www.titleist.com/golf-ball-fitting/

On-Course Evaluation Scorecard: http://media.titleist.com/images/titleist/pdfs/US/2012/2012BF_OnlineScorecard_v3.pdf

This was suggested to me before.  It works....and it is fun!

I actually keep a supply of both in my bag.  What I use is dependent on how I am playing that day.  You see, I have a consistency problem too!

I would actually suggest the prov1 because, contrary to everyone's belief, it is longer, lower, and does not spin as much as the prov1x. It doesn't matter how fast your swing speed is either. My club pro is a titleist rep and he told me that he was in a meeting about all the new golf balls, and he was told that all golf balls on the market are right around 70 compression. even the prov1x. forget about compression. the prov1x spins more in my opinion. I would say don't try the NXT tour s. My next choice after prov1 is b330-rx. in between prov1 and Nxt tour s spin wise.

Just a couple of points to update here. In terms of distance, all Titleist golf balls are long and the distance differences between models is just 4-5 yards. This is true whether you are a high speed Tour player, moderate or lower swing speed golfer. In fact, this small yardage difference is not enough to change club selection on the approach. 

As for spin, here is a chart that shows some spin differences between models across different shot types. As you can see the Pro V1 does provide the most spin.

Hope this helps and thanks for the post!

Mike

When testing the distance of balls to get this 4-5y difference, do you maximize launch parameters for ProV1(the best clubhead, angle into the ball.........) then stick an NXT under the same conditions and get only 4-5y differenece?

Or do you change the parameters for the NXT(different clubhead, different impact angle.......)?

Hi Quintin,

Thanks for the question. During our testing process we use the same swing conditions for all golf ball models. Hope this helps.

- Mike

Mike, So you are saying that if I find the NXT Tour S is the ball for me around the greens and short game, then I will not lose more than 4-5 yards at most on my driver and long irons? I want a ball to hit, check and roll a foot or two, i do not want it to zip back at me. Would the NXT Tour S seem to fit this criteria? Thanks.

Hi Robert,

Yes, through our extensive robot and player testing, we have found that the distance difference between all models is around 4 to 5 yards. In terms of short game performance, the NXT Tour S is going to spin a bit less around the greens than the Pro V1 and Pro V1x. When I was out testing the NXT Tour S, it did tend to check up with a little roll out for me on shots around the green.  As always, your best bet is to try a sleeve out on the course to see how it performs for you and your game. Good luck.

- Mike

I am a single digit hndcp and play the ProV1X.  I tried the Tour S last month and it performed well, but it did not have the drop and stop of the ProV1X around the greens that I am accustomed to.   It is a great ball to just play around with, but I will stick to the X.

TT

Thanks, Mike. I am going to try the Tour S, it sounds like exactly what I need, a little less spin than the Prov1X.

One other thing, you are spot on that fitting for compression is a myth. Here is some more information from our golf ball fitting pages:

There is a common misconception that a player must match the compression of the golf ball to his or her swing speed in order to properly “compress” the ball. Every golfer compresses the golf ball on every full swing shots. In fact, the differences in the amount of compression across driver swing speeds are virtually indistinguishable as depicted in these photos taken from a high speed camera at impact.

Another myth is that lower swing speed players will hit a lower compression golf ball longer. No single element of golf ball design determines the golf ball’s performance or its distance. The Titleist Golf Ball R&D team has a wide range of tools to design our golf balls to achieve specific performance characteristics. Its compression is simply a result of this process. Compression is a test of the relative softness of a golf ball and relates to how firm or soft a golf ball feels to a golfer. While there is no performance benefit to choosing a specific compression, many golfers (regardless of swing speed) do have feel preferences. Golfers who prefer softer feel may prefer lower compression golf balls.

Good stuff!

Ok, so my swing speed is about 112, using a lower compression ball like the NXT Tour S will not cause me any distance loss? I have a very steep angle, and I impart a lot of spin on my irons. Up north here where the greens are softer, I will spin a Prov1X off the green, but down south where the greens are harder, sand based, they work perfect. Unfortunately I cannot hit 2 balls to test them very often, so I play a ball for a few holes then switch. I loved the NXT Tour (2010 model), but it lacked the greenside control I needed.

Mike provided some excellent information. Greg, you don't necessarily have to have any specific "skill" to benefit from the Pro V1/Pro V1x. Have you tried them out compared to the NXT Tour's that you use? It's always worth going through a ball fitting with your Titleist rep to find THE best Titleist ball for your game.

Robert J The NXT Tour S is an excellent ball. Have you checked out the DT Solo? It may work well for your game. The best thing to do is go through a ball fitting with your Titleist rep. 

Dave

The "skill" I lack is the ability to strike the ball consistently--which I think is necessary to utilize the ProV's spin characteristics.  Right?  Sometimes it releases. Sometimes it checks.   With the driver, I no longer have the ability to work the ball and am looking more for a ball that will minimize spin and get it in the fairway (that's the fairway of the hole I'm playing. lol)

 I actually was fitted a in 2010 and was told that NXT tour/ProV1x were for me.  I figured that I would save a buck a ball and use the NXT's as my primary ball.

I'm actually having the same problem. I'm generating too much spin with my woods, and long irons, but not having a problem with wedges and short irons. I have tried the hp2 and the hp3, both of which I have not been able to spin back(with brand new AP2 712's). They've hit, and rolled about a foot forward. I just couldn't get these balls to spin.

If you feel the cover of a Pro v, Pro v1x, or a Penta, (yes, I have tried the Pentas) they all have the same "soft feel" in common. Once you go down the line of Titleist balls, you start to notice that the covers do not feel the same. That is because they are not made with the same material which makes the Pro v/1x spin like crazy. They are made with a thicker cover, which makes it harder to spin the ball. Tell you the truth, buy the balls that you think would benefit you the most, pick two or three, and go out and play a few holes with them to see how they perform, and compare which ones you like the best. It could be expensive, but it all depends on how much you want from your ball. It is your most important piece of equipment, seeing as you use it the the most. Right now I'm playing the rocket balls, and so far, they are pretty good. However, I'm thinking of trying the new "Velocity" balls that came out. Good luck...